What???
You just thought you were going to go on a murdering rampage and no one was EVER going to say a word???
Maybe you shouldn't have used the same co. to do all your dirty work> Lots of BLEEDOVER on the stalking, murder, property grabs, intimidation, threats, threats to CHILDREN AND WOMEN.
Too many firefighters in remodeling business. Yknow what I mean??
Which would make them EXPERTS on taking a house apart and attacking it as they have done TO MINE AND OTHERS IN MY FAMILY AND OTHERS IN THIS CITY.
It's nice that most of them are short. It sure helps the case along.
Thanks fellas.
Jeepers creepers.
I TOLD YOU TO LEAVE ME AND MINE ALONE.
SUN TZU
Off-Duty Tampa Officer Dies In Motorcycle Accident
Tribune photo by CHRIS URSO
An off-duty Tampa police officer riding his motorcycle was killed in a collision with a van in Land O'Lakes Thursday afternoon.
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By DAVID SOMMER
The Tampa Tribune
Published: May 1, 2008
Updated: 05/01/2008 06:22 pm
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GOWERS CORNER - An off-duty Tampa police officer with 20 years on the force was killed Thursday when a county-owned pickup turned into the path of his motorcycle on U.S. 41 in Pasco County, the Florida Highway Patrol said.
Master Patrol Officer Victor Guerrero, 47, was pronounced dead at St. Joseph's Hospital in Tampa, where he was airlifted to after the 12:50 p.m. crash.
His family gathered there to mourn his loss, said Trooper Larry Coggins, a highway patrol spokesman. Guerrero is survived by a wife, three children and three stepchildren.
"He had an outstanding reputation," Tampa Mayor Pam Iorio said during a news conference Thursday at St. Joseph's Hospital. "He was known as a steady person, never changing. He did his job with dignity and pride."
The officer's death shocked his family and has shaken his fellow officers, Iorio said.
Victor Guerrero
Relatives at the hospital were not available for comment.
"This is a sad day for the Tampa Police Department," Chief Steve Hogue said.
Guerrero lived in Brooksville and was a Tampa police officer for 20 years, police spokeswoman Andrea Davis said.
Eyewitness Rosario Fierro said he was working on his family's property nearby when he heard tires squeal and turned to see the motorcycle rider flying through the air.
The motorcyclist had been southbound, in a 55 mph zone, about a mile north of State Road 52.
"He flew off the motorcycle and hit a second truck that was northbound" behind the one that turned into his path, Fierro said. "He flew about 50 feet past that."
"We tried to help him but he just wasn't moving," Fierro said. He said a work crew of female jail trusties was picking up trash on the side of the highway, and the detention deputy called 911.
The driver of the first truck - a Ford Ranger with an extended cab owned by the Pasco County Engineering Services Department - told bystanders he did not see the motorcycle as he tried to turn left from the northbound lane of U.S. 41, Fierro said.
Coggins identified the county employee as Daniel Whipple, 53, of Hudson. No charges had been filed Thursday night.
Whipple's truck was impounded, and he was escorted back to the West Pasco Government Center in New Port Richey, where he was to undergo a drug test, said county public information officer Eric Keaton.
A homicide investigator's initial findings matched Fierro's account, Coggins said. However, the trooper said it was not confirmed that Guerrero, who was not wearing a helmet, struck the second truck before landing on the east side of the roadway.
The driver of that truck, Bruce Brick, 55, of Brandon, said he thought the officer glanced off the truck, Coggins said. He said Guerrero's 2008 Harley-Davidson came to rest under the front of Brick's 2006 Ford van.
State records show that Whipple was cited for speeding twice and received one ticket for failing to use due care and one for failing to obey a traffic sign or device at a traffic intersection in an incident that involved a crash. In each case adjudication was withheld, meaning he was not convicted and did not receive points on his driver's license. He completed a remedial driving class in June 2005, records state.
Johnnie Hunt, who lives next door to Guerrero's mother in Tampa, said he became close friends with the officer over the years.
Guerrero "always had bikes and fast cars. He's always been cool," Hunt said. "He's the nicest guy I ever met."
Reporter Ray Reyes and photographer Chris Urso contributed to this report. Reporter David Sommer can be reached at (727) 815-1087.
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Posted by ( kimbo ) on May 1, 2008 at 2:13 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
Details please
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Posted by ( ohboy ) on May 1, 2008 at 2:16 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
That's 2 dead, 1 injured in a few hours.There's gotta be a message there....
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Posted by ( rocknroll ) on May 1, 2008 at 2:16 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
Come on tbowhy even print an article with the lack of any real information
Hey heres a article
Man po'd at TBODetails to follow! Ya schmucks!
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Posted by ( VatoLoco ) on May 1, 2008 at 2:19 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
Lame story.
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Posted by ( mtp ) on May 1, 2008 at 2:42 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
tis the season
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Posted by ( Come_on ) on May 1, 2008 at 3:02 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
Why is this "News" Who cares?
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Posted by ( merlin29 ) on May 1, 2008 at 3:09 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
I, for one, would love more details. My brother is a TPD officer, veteran of 29 years, and rides his Road King on this route on his days off, weather permitting. I have been unable to reach him on his phone and TPD isn't giving out any info. FYI.. Come_on, I care! Why don't you just GO_ON and get lost!
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Posted by ( Come_on ) on May 1, 2008 at 3:13 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
merlin29 - What I mean is that there are HUNDREDS of accidents each day and THEY are not reported. As far as the person who died.....I do care a great deal! Sorry to have ticked you off.
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Posted by ( pamsdolls ) on May 1, 2008 at 3:16 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
My heartfelt sorrow and prayers to his family! This now makes 3 dead today on bikes - PLEASE start watching out for bikes on the road. Sun City - St. Pete and now Pasco. And assuming this officer had a helmet means that all 3 were wearing helmets and it did not save them. Was almost hit by old lady in Leesburg this weekend - she turned in front of us - most of us try to drive defensively but its hard to watch and predict what everybody is going to do. It isn't us that is on the phone - putting on makeup - eating and generally being distracted by everything but the driving. We pass the regular driving test and we also have to past a motorcycle written and driving test. Please watch out for us.
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Posted by ( jelly425 ) on May 1, 2008 at 3:21 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
Merlin29 - I hope you get good news.
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Posted by ( Landsturm ) on May 1, 2008 at 3:40 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
Been a sad day for the motorcycles...People are sooo selfish/mean behined the wheel these days no matter what your driving...But the bike doesn't have much of a chance...Condolences Again...
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Posted by ( Iorio_Basher ) on May 1, 2008 at 3:55 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
ANOTHER SELECTIVE DEATH.
FOR CHRIST"S SAKE IF YOU ARE HIS FAMILY GET A REAL PRIVATE DETECTIVE AND FIND OUT WHAT HAPPENED>SERIOUSLY.AND<>HE must have been a wonderful man.
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Posted by ( Iorio_Basher ) on May 1, 2008 at 3:57 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
another selective death. get a private detective and FIND OUT. DO NOT LET ANYONE OFF THE HOOK.He must have been a wonderful man.I am very sorry for your loss.
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Posted by ( 5150tampa ) on May 1, 2008 at 4:24 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
bikes should also look out for cars and truck. have you seen how a lot of people drive them bikes there crazy, i had one almost hit me. there nuts
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Posted by ( altedbaseball ) on May 1, 2008 at 4:25 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
merlin29
i know how you feel. several years back, i believe it was in 2004, there was an explosion at the big bend power plant. my brother-in-law worked in the same exact area of the explosion.
i could not get any confirmation of the deceased. I WAS GOING INSANE, NOT TO MENTION MY SISTER.
man, i will pray for you. i hope all turns out well for you as it did for me.my brother-in-law was not involved.
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Posted by ( kimbo ) on May 1, 2008 at 4:44 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
The story has more info now, not good info. Hats off and wet eyes.
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Posted by ( freedomfighter ) on May 1, 2008 at 5:01 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
R.I.P. watch out bikers ,its going around.peace
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Posted by ( Desmo ) on May 1, 2008 at 5:10 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
Sad news.
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Posted by ( somerandomguy ) on May 1, 2008 at 5:16 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
Check this idiot driver's phone records!! He was probably on the phone talking and not paying attention, which is why he didn't "see" this officer on the bike....MORON!!
We need to BAN cell phone alltogether from cars in Florida! The majority of drivers are just too stupid and ignorant to drive AND talk!
RIP
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Posted by ( Iorio_Basher ) on May 1, 2008 at 5:18 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
Interesting. Gower's Corners. My family's former property. The first place we were chased out of in Florida.ALSO the sad site of the young trooper's death.I wouldn't believe anything that these 'witnesses' have to say.They're all accomplished liars. I do NOT take this as a warning anymore than I did the Jasons and their game playing on the interstate today.Someone IS going to get hurt but I can assure you it won't be me.I'm very sorry for the loss of your beloved family member.I hope you know someone you can REALLY trust to get to the bottom of his murder.
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Posted by ( Jabarten ) on May 1, 2008 at 5:21 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
The only reason why they (bike accidents) seem to be increasing, is that there are more bikers on the road...
With the price of gas, and the overall price of a new car, I expect to see even more (Bikers, and biker accidents)....just my views...
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Posted by ( Iorio_Basher ) on May 1, 2008 at 5:23 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
Interesting. Gower's Corners. My family's former property. The first place we were chased out of in Florida.ALSO the sad site of the young trooper's death.I wouldn't believe anything that these 'witnesses' have to say.They're all accomplished liars. I do NOT take this as a warning anymore than I did the Jasons and their game playing on the interstate today.Someone IS going to get hurt but I can assure you it won't be me.I'm very sorry for the loss of your beloved family member.Please find someone you can trust to get to the bottom of this suspicious death.
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Posted by ( Tonya ) on May 1, 2008 at 5:43 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
Merlin29...
I hope this is NOT what you were worried about earlier.
I feel so bad for the officer and his loved ones. Sad...
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Posted by ( Desmo ) on May 1, 2008 at 5:58 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
Married with six kids too (from another news source). What a shame.
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Posted by ( lolafalala ) on May 1, 2008 at 6:08 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
Regardless of who was at fault, we know how the drivers are on the roadways so motorcyclists know the dangers and the chances they are taking.
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Posted by ( Justin_Case ) on May 1, 2008 at 6:21 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
Jabarten....you took the words right out of my mouth.
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Posted by ( Brenda ) on May 1, 2008 at 6:34 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
Dear Somerandomguy...I have a theory to the driver's distraction. Says there was "a work group of female trustees picking up trash on the side of the road". This guy obviously had something more important to be checking out carefully than the road..or what's coming down it.
Sorry to the officer's family.
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Posted by ( tdave365 ) on May 1, 2008 at 6:46 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
You all would think you'd see the pattern after some hundred-all stories or more that many of you have been commenting on forever now.
TBO publishes what confirmed information it has when it has it, and then continues to add to that as more details are learned. This approach is completely appropriate for this thing we call the new media, so, like, deal, okay?
-D
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Posted by ( mleilanir ) on May 1, 2008 at 7:11 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
Im surprised techrider hasn't come up with another ignorant comment about motorcycle riders here... I can imagin this gentleman was doing everything right. Too young. Sorry to hear about it. Hopefully the other driver gets a good reprimandation for this.
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Posted by ( hemi_girl ) on May 1, 2008 at 8:06 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
The man driving the van was a county worker. The police officer was a county worker and the article says he was NOT wearing a helmet. They are drug testing the county worker with the van....are they going to do the same test on the police officer also? The police officer's friend and neighbor said that the officer always had bikes and FAST cars. I like to read the ENTIRE article, not just a few lines like it appears some of you are doing.... I'm sorry for the loss of life for this man's family and I am sure he will be dearly missed but there should be an investigation of BOTH parties, in my humble opinion.
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Posted by ( chuckhill ) on May 1, 2008 at 8:11 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
It is a tragic story. A wife and six children.
Lolafalala makes an obvious point we often choose to ignore. The road is an extremely dangerous place to ride a vehicle that offers you NO protection. We all know bikes are easy to miss. When most of us look at traffic we look for CARS and if we pay enough attention we usually see things that are unusual, like colors, shapes, lights, etc.
It is sad to say, but riding bikes is RISKY. Not wearing a helmet MAY not save your life, but some people live because they DID wear one. In this accident we may never know. A body flying through the air is eventually going to hit something HARD! Our bodies are not made to take that. In a car you have a lot of metal, plastic and rubber to absorb the energy of a crash and look at the injuries you can receive in a car at even 35 or 40 mph. On a bike YOU are the absorber!
I truly regret what happened here. Truly. I also wonder if it is irresponsible not to wear the MINIMAL protection available. That may sound cold. Most of us spend our lives AVOIDING risks to our life. It is natural!
It is probably fair to say that whether a biker has really accepted the risks isn't the point. THE RISKS ARE REAL AND YOU CAN DIE. If you ride and you choose to ignore that, then it may not be fair to find someone else to blame for what happens to you. If you are an adult and you accept the risk, then enjoy your ride. You may outlive us all.
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Posted by ( hemi_girl ) on May 1, 2008 at 9:35 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
Will someone please tell me what a "full dress motorcycle" is?
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Posted by ( Petey90 ) on May 1, 2008 at 9:58 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
hemigirl....a tampa police officer is NOT a county worker. Just so you know.
Also, because the man in the truck caused the accident that involved death or serious injury, THAT is why he is being tested for drugs. It is normal procedure. An autopsy will check the Police Officer as well.
Why would you insinuate that the officer was under the influence of any drugs or alcohol, with your request, in your humble opinion, that they BOTH be tested for something? You are insinuating that the officer did something wrong!
Just because he could afford a motorcyle and a fast car? So what? What are you trying to insinuate there? I can afford both and I don't drink or do drugs, and I don't deserve to die at the hands of a moron. Go try to start your trouble somewhere else.
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Posted by ( hemi_girl ) on May 1, 2008 at 10:19 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
Petey09.....I am not insinuating anything...I'm asking questions and you answered a few of them with your reply...I was wondering if in a car accident, they tested everyone or just the person who they say caused the accident...I can afford both a bike and fast auto also, I don't drink alchohol and have never done drugs of any kind and just because I have questions does not mean I am starting trouble...I still want to know what a "full dress motorcycle"is.
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Posted by ( rickclewis ) on May 1, 2008 at 10:41 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
Please remember to consider the risks in riding unprotected on a motorcycle. They are EXTREMELY dangerous to ride.Please only ride if you must. Your life is very valuable.
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Posted by ( supernanny80 ) on May 1, 2008 at 11:14 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
That's why I hate motorcycles. My husband would have to divorce me first before he gets one
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Posted by ( Old_FL_Crab ) on May 1, 2008 at 11:33 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
@hemi_girl "Full dress" not an exact definition but think of motorcycle with saddle bags, possibly windshield, sissy bar or custom seat, extra chrome, radio, extra lights. In general just a lot of extra stuff for show. Please no fussy dice, PLEASE!
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Posted by ( mcmurphy7 ) on May 2, 2008 at 12:13 a.m. ( Suggest removal )
Old_FL_Crab-- "Fussy Dice?" I have this image in my mind now of a pair of dice arguing with the rider: "Aw, no mang, don't hang me here. It's too hot." Or maybe, "Hey dude: why you puttin' me on the side car? The slipstream is messing my 'do!" LOL! :)
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Posted by ( nnms11 ) on May 2, 2008 at 6:49 a.m. ( Suggest removal )
Prayers go with the family and all the victims. People like Daniel Whipple should be made accountable, seriously...prison time for 10 years or so. Daniel should not be allowed to drive and pay big time restitution.....On another subject, I agree, no cell phone use while driving, absolutely none. I ride also and have had many close encounters with self-centered individuals who only care about themselves, cell phone, laptops,etc...while driving??
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Posted by ( Carlene ) on May 2, 2008 at 7:22 a.m. ( Suggest removal )
My thoughts and prayers to Officer Guerrero's family & friends.
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Posted by ( llk ) on May 2, 2008 at 8:01 a.m. ( Suggest removal )
RIP Rider and prayers go out to his family. People, slow down and watch out for motorcycles because they are everywhere.
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Posted by ( noodles76 ) on May 2, 2008 at 8:52 a.m. ( Suggest removal )
I think this guy pulled me over once.
Sad story. I'm selling my bike.
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Posted by ( Dixie ) on May 2, 2008 at 8:55 a.m. ( Suggest removal )
I agree about the cell phones. I have had many close encounters which I believe were caused because the driver was not giving their full attention to driving, even in parking lots. It breaks your concentration, some people more than others. Please limit your calls when driving.
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Posted by ( PJC ) on May 2, 2008 at 8:57 a.m. ( Suggest removal )
wake up people. RIP Rider.
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Posted by ( fran_moore1 ) on May 2, 2008 at 10:47 a.m. ( Suggest removal )
You have lost a wonderful person. My deepest condolences to Vic's wife, children, family and friends. After 20 years of working in Law Enforcement, chancing life day after day, Vic had to be an unfortunate victim of such a tragic death. In the thirteen years knowing and working with Vic, I have never once heard him say a negative statement about or towards anyone, even when things were not going as well as we all would like them to. I think for the majority of us who did know him, we would not be able to find a negative word to say about him. I personally know that the news of his death has shocked and sadened everyone who knew him, even those who have only known him for a short period of time.
TBO and all newspapers do not post articles with the intention of the community going on a bashing session, but to inform the public of what has happened within the community. Giving the community to provide feedback. Regardless of what one feels is news worthy, others out here may be interested in knowing about it. Some times this may be the only way we find out what is going on out here. There is no need to get into a debate as to what should and should not occur during the investigation. I am sure that the investigating agency knows what they are doing and what should occur. Fortunately there are guide lines which dictate the procedure, that government agency and private entity as well, that must be followed when an incident of such tragedy occurs (ie. mandatory drug/alcohol testing for the operator of the government/company vehicle).
It would be great if when posting on this article or any other that involves the loss of a loved one or friend to such a tragedy, if you could take into consideration that if you were the one feeling such pain would you want to read some of the things that we are seeing here, before you send your comment.
With deep sympathy Vic will be sadly missed by all that knew him.
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Posted by ( mes7709 ) on May 2, 2008 at 10:56 a.m. ( Suggest removal )
where does it say anything about a cell phone being used? the driver of the truck wasnt paying attention like usual...god bless the TPD officer and his family i KNOW everyone with fire rescue and bayflite did everything they could to help him
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Posted by ( krt51 ) on May 2, 2008 at 11:29 a.m. ( Suggest removal )
I'm very sorry for the loss of this officer. God Bless the family and friends!!
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Posted by ( wkedwards81 ) on May 2, 2008 at noon ( Suggest removal )
while I do feel sorry for his family, how many more people must get killed on motorcycyles for you people to stop riding them? Darwin anyone.
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Posted by ( H8TR ) on May 2, 2008 at 12:51 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
Sorry for the familys' loss....really feel bad for them.But....he is just another egotistical, judgmental, napoleonic cop off the streets.
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Posted by ( u_talkin_to_me ) on May 2, 2008 at 1:47 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
"Posted by ( H8TR ) on May 2, 2008 at 12:51 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
Sorry for the familys' loss....really feel bad for them.But....he is just another egotistical, judgmental, napoleonic cop off the streets.
Did you know him personally?? Why would you say that? 20 years on the force is very respectable. Not all cops are like your very general description. Maybe just to you....hmmm.
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Posted by ( H8TR ) on May 2, 2008 at 2 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
nice try. I (thankfully) havent had to deal with them, aside from a traffic ticket...which the guy was a jerk.But I have witnessed more than enough of them being scumbags for nor reason other than they can, cause they're hiding behind that shield.
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Posted by ( vanburen7677 ) on May 2, 2008 at 2:28 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
WOW! A sad day when one of our fellow officers have to leave us. I knew Vic personally and he was an "AWESOME" guy! Always the gentleman and a smile for everyone he met. He is truely one of the nicest people you could ever meet.For those making wisecracks about police officers, where would you be without them?? Could you walk out your door and be safe in the streets if all the police officers were to quite their jobs tomorrow?? Vic was a fine officer of 20 years. In talking with him, he was very proud and loved what he did and, to him, it was an honor to be able to wear that badge! My condolences to his family! My God give you the strength to face this tradegy! Goodbye Vic....go get em' in heaven!
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Posted by ( H8TR ) on May 2, 2008 at 2:49 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
If they went for REAL crimes with the lack of compassion, care, and instant guilty judgement that they go after jaywalking, people wouldnt despise them the way they do. As I stated...I feel very bad for his family. Truly.But it's sad to say that I didnt give 2 cares when I heard another police-person died. There's a reason a vast amount of people have such a low respect or tolerance for them. I now wait for them to kick in my door for expressing an opinion and hurting their little egos.
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Posted by ( mes7709 ) on May 2, 2008 at 3:11 p.m.
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Posted by ( H8TR ) on May 2, 2008 at 3:26 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
And this article in TBO.com is a PERFECT example of what I'm talking about. Here is the title "Arrest Flags Problem With Kits Police Use To ID Drugs"
I eagerly await opinions.
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Posted by ( mes7709 ) on May 2, 2008 at 4:03 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
i guess tbo didnt like what i had to say so they took my comment off i guees i spoke the truth about the trash talking idiots on here like H8TR
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Posted by ( H8TR ) on May 2, 2008 at 4:16 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
Well mes7709, it was probably conveyed in a profanity laced tirade as I doubt you have the synaptic spark to express a comprehensible thought.
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Posted by ( Iorio_Basher ) on May 3, 2008 at 8:42 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
nice. The day after I commented that this was VERY suspicious the Tampa fire dept was DRIVING CIRCLES around and all over me. Also TPD car 612 made sure he made himself VERY VISIBLE to me as I left my home.Someone should check into this.Oh yeah, it's on video.This is an appalling town where a man can openly be murdered like this and NO ONE is in place to do anything.OH YEAH THAT'S RIGHT. The state's atty ran WITHOUT OPPOSITION>WT_????I am very sorry for the loss of your loved one. Those in LEO and TFD who are DECENT: It's becoming obvious from the NUMEROUS RECENT DEATHS OF GOOD LEOS AND GOOD TFD personnel in Tampa that SOMETHING is going on.WATCH YOUR BACK.Someone HAS TO KNOW SOMETHING about this.It's obvious to an outsider; surely one of you insiders has some insight.Because, someone will be next.. so if you're afraid to speak up .... then whose turn will it be next and whose fault will that be?
Silence is COMPLICITY.
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